$120 USD. It mattered to me when I reviewed it because in the Paris DCR Cave, the floor wasnt level. Ended up using your link to Wiggle in reply #68. Youll notice at the base of the grooves theres cut-outs, so that you can wire a very slim cable up if you want. So I tend to put the fans off to the side anyway.. Ive found that a heavy duty adjustable music stand is just as good or better than any cycling specific stand. Fine print the box the Confidence comes in says Please keep packaging materials for manufacture warranty. But, theres also a point in time for every company to innovate on existing designs or address noted shortcomings. Thanks for this comparison. As for downsides, about the only thing I could possibly nitpick on is the base legs arent as pretty as the KICKR Desk. It was the only place I could find it earlier this year in Europe in-stock. Im searching something like that for my wife. Only issue I have is trying to get table top to click into place, seems like you had same issue. Search amazon uk for Confidence Fitness Adjustable Height Treadmill Desk. Hi Ray! Wahoo Desk has better and silkier wheels than RAD/Lifeline, which a professional rollerblader might notice. Conquer Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon US (orange accents) The weight of the remote is so much better and less likely to accidentally throw it out, lost in the couch or dropped. Lifeline Cycling Trainer Desk (EU/UK/AU/NZ Wiggle) [Back in stock!!!! As it is where I have it placed the farthest away edge can be a tough reach when on the trainer. Search for Vinsetto Height Adjustable Mobile Computer Desk with Wheels,, Hi Trevor also check out Wiggle UK, they have it in stock currently for 119GBP: link to awin1.com. Total DCR install time: 10 minutes including taking a pile of unnecessary photos and shooting video too. There is no fancy box here. Want the Wahoo KICKR Desk(which work with any brand trainer), but cant exactly justify spending $250 on an indoor trainer desk? It may time for new DC Rainmaker Bibs. Just wanted to say thanks for this review I found it as I was bidding on a used Wahoo Kickr desk, and decided to stop and buy a new one from Wiggle the water bottle holder and the wheel locks must be better than the sleeker design of the wheels on the Wahoo one. My only grip is a bit of creaking when you grab it and move it. 90 minutes later, and I have a training desk the same dimensions as the Wahoo with the pad/phone grooves and cup holders! In the review, you say that the wahoo and rad have the same maximum height. Click above for all the details. I have mine set up without the wheels and like that setup. Here ya go: link to amazon.com. Perhaps those boxes say Amazon on the side. Did anyone try drilling extra holes to have it higher? I think theres valid reasons why you should support the engineering pipeline of companies that do that original innovating. Its purely dependent on which bike or trainer spot Im at. Granted the gel doesnt have to live there but for me the indoor cycle is the only place I use the heart rate strap (goes odd when I run with it) so it is sensible to have it there. Valid for Prime Members only I take things to a whole new level of interactive depth! My only complaint about the Wahoo desk is trying to adjust it up/down for my wife and I. then I remembered I have tons of that footage already. And so, because obviously I need two KICKR/Wannabe KICKR desks in the DCR Cave, I went out and bought another one (at full price too). But yeah, Ive one water bottle too. This is one of the two core features I found the Wahoo KICKR Desk lacked. I get using it to put a screen on to ride Zwift, but what about work from home (while riding) functionality? ( Confidence Fitness Adjustable Height Treadmill Desk ). It is everything and more that Rainmaker claims. Both end up in the ~121cm range inclusive of the top/buttons. Wahoo Desk fits the Wahoo Headwind Fan perfectly (by design), so you can stick it over the front bar. But without failevery week they show up. I think the point of this desk is basically splitting the difference for something thats purpose-built, but wont set you back as much as a mid-range GPS watch. I just stumbled across your review for the Rad Cycle table. I cant comment on how it would impact TT bars as I dont have any but I suspect it wouldnt be fun. Im headed to Paris what do you recommend for training or sightseeing? The Confidence seems to eligible for: Spend $10 on small business, save $10 on Prime Day they dont seem to thread through the arms, just provide a friction hold. Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. Also, if you have a KICKR CLIMB, remember thats going to go up and down, so do consider that elevation situation prior to your first ride (and find it goes up into the desk and throws your laptop, water bottle, and Haribo all over the ground). Minutes after reading your review, I ordered the desk via the Amazon link, and it arrived today! The biggest advantage for me is really the water bottle holdersbut as noted, not actually for water bottles. Not massively, just slightly. Are you willing to review or test beta products? There is approximately 1.5 inches of clearance between the hoods and the bottom edge of the desk. In my case, I just have a longer USB-C cord and longer Apple Lightning cord nearby that I can drag up there if I need to charge things. And yes, since the days of the KICKR Desk people have selected all sorts of hospital side-table desk & musical instruments things that are cheaper, as well as other contraptions. It also often hangs on my handlebars. Great product. Then theres two sets of grooves. Just ordered it thanks to this review. Simply put, its got two water bottle holders and wheel locks that Wahoo lacks. You can make it work, its just not pretty. But they dont last more than a day most times. This I cant decide what I want to be called desk, is almost a direct knock-off of the KICKR Desk. Nothing has changed in Wahoos Desk since then. The SARIS TD-1 desk does have two USB ports and two AC outlets, super handy. RAD Cycle Trainer Desk Amazon Australia WOW! Many readers stumble into my website in search of information on the latest and greatest sports tech products. This is an interesting desk. The most common question I receive outside of the whats the best GPS watch for me variant, are photography-esq based. Unsure. Ill probably have to go for the Wahoo then. Haha haha ? No problem, theres an alternative the RAD Cycling Desk, also branded as the Lifeline Cycling Trainer Desk, Vinsetto Cycling Desk, Conquer Cycling Trainer Desk, as well as some truly special brand names. The TD-1 seems like a product that would be clearly better than the Kickr desk, but just not worth it vs the $130 Amazon option. Just tweeted out. link to amazon.com Specifically 1-2 international outlets, and then 2-3 USB ports. Still waiting for a replay of Wiggle. Ive had the RAD desk for a couple of years now and love it. I wish I had better advice than that. Heres a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that Ive put together and posted. And Ill probably even pick-up another too for home, since this one has pretty much exclusively lived at the DCR Cave. It looks lovely but I dont think it would be big enough for me because on top of the ironing board that I currently use, I have a laptop connected to a 24 inch monitor plus a phone (dont want to miss a text !) That could be things like nutrition, but also stuff like a laptop, tablet, your phone, or Haribo. Bought off Wiggle after your review, arrived today. Thanks for adding that! Happens like the tides. Steve. These allow you to place a tablet in there and have it stand up at a slight angle. About the only quirky part here was inserting the table top into the base. Once it locked in by pressing the buttons, then it was nice and crispy from there on out. Maybe its because Sweden recently got its own amazon site, I dont know. But hey, it costs less than half as much in most countries, and Ive been using it for most of this year, side by side with the KICKR Desk. PPWear Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon Italy So Ray can almost get a Haribo 5oz packs 12 box for free. I do have a potential downside to add to your list. Your Amazon (US) links have no honor. Some reviews are over 60 pages long when printed out, with hundreds of photos! Want to compare the features of each product, down to the nitty-gritty? Just measured it. One of your best paragraphs short of the entire Love Sack review back in the day! Now, if youd like to see this thing in action, then just hit play below. C) Place to stash the 18 extra bike computers Im recording data from No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! RAD/Lifeline desk has wheel locks for uneven surfaces so it doesnt roll away (like the DCR Paris Cave was) Wahoo has none link to amazon.com This solves that. In my tracking of the US Amazon site, every week these come in/out of stock, and tend to be in-stock around Tues-Thursday most often (and then out of stock for the weekend. I have the front edge of the desk (edge closest to me) just over the brake hoods. Yeah, when mine was like that I just pressed the buttons in/out a few times and went up a level/down a level, and then it properly locked into place. Also, sometimes I put nutrition in there. Check out Glad I made the purchase when I noticed the price drop, will be building it up end of this week due to being a prime member. As you say over the hoods would be uncomfortable, especially in aero position, although could rest your chin on the desk! Now its just what features do you want. . PPWear Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon Netherlands This time the Lifeline Cycling Trainer Desk. So on the RAD/Lifeline desk it ends up just looking a bit weird. Boom youre correct. If anyone else is into cable management I bought these and think theyre a perfect fit for this application: link to amazon.co.uk Like the desk they are sold by many different brands, the link is to the cheapest at time of my purchase. Neither happened. Vinsetto Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon US (blue accents) Note that you can fit a phone in there just fine, but not a phone with a case. When super tight, they creak. If desks can be sexy. I aim to leave no stone unturned. However, in this rare case, I think the RAD/Lifeline trainer desk is actually better than Wahoos KICKR Desk. Heres my most recent GPS watch guide here, and cycling GPS computers here. Only issue I have is trying to get table top to click into place, seems like you had same issue. Thanks again!! In any case, day to day wise Im pretty darn happy with this variant. Its just a cardboard box imprinted with the product name and the retailer it was destined for. Will you test our product before release? Once in position I cant see a reason why Id need wheels to move it so if not fitting the wheels worked that would suit me perfectly. That said, I dont tend to use my fan there, since about the only thing itll then cool is my crotch. Both of which could easily have been rectified down the road in minor revisions. No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! best deal for Europe folks at 99GBP]. It just feels like someone just needs to try a bit harder. Its more that photographically close-up its not quite as sharp. Same thing, different name. Or sorry, were you referring to something else? Smart Trainers Buyers Guide: Looking at a smart trainer this winter? The trainer table in all its confusing name variations is unavailable (out of stock) in all stores in Germany and Europe as a whole. Ive been trying to update the review (well, the backend database that drives the links) every day with whichever branded variant of the desk is lowest that day. Instead, a mostly no-name company was apparently this listening. The first thing youll want to do is adjust the height of the desk. Unfortunately, the RAD is NO Longer 1/2 the price. Perfect timing as it is getting cold already. I have had my ipad flown across the garage 2x times due to my kiddos doing that exact thing. But theres no reason you really need to have it overlapping if you dont want it. Because, as any KICKR-desk owner will tell you, one slight bonk of the desk and off goes the water bottles. Four bolts Heres a close look at those pieces for fun: Putting together is pretty straightforward. I realized the other day that the only reason I hadnt finished this darn review was that I was too lazy to re-setup the camera for a bunch of trainers showing me riding it. So much so the KICKR Desk would literally roll away (no joke). Probably not an issue for most people, but just a caution if you have kids that play around while you ride. It is now available at Lowes for $149 w/ free shipping (im pretty sure its identical to the one reviewed). Finally, note that theres no power in it. DC Rainmaker 2021 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. I found the reviews of the two training desks really helpful, but I really didnt want to spend that kind of moneyfortunately I had some 24s and plywood in the shop. Plus, you'll be more awesome. Any other ideas? I just find it easier to grab. Purchased one, love it and want a second for the wife and cant find one anywhere in the UK at present , Trevor Im really glad I picked one up, with all thats going on in the world, these desks are selling more than before. Of course, Id love to see Wahoo iterate on their desk. Thanks so much. The two features added were ones I identified in my Wahoo KICKR Desk review 5 years ago. Didnt matter to me. I put the wheels on first (stupid idea), then put the legs on. But if youre looking for a trainer desk, you wont go wrong with this one. There is also the bit where nothing in that photo shopped pic is actually in perspective and the trainer isnt plugged in. I appreciate it! One time my youngest stepped on the front of the desk while I was riding, the desk tipped over and I had to grab my computer before it slid off. Just got mine delivered, from amazon co uk. So Ive been using both decks, literally side by side, since earlier this year. around $180, early in the today is was $125 and now back up again to $180. Floor base (the u-shaped thing) Which Amazon sites are best for Sweden? Not sure if anyone would notice unless I said something. And the wahoo has 48 (122 cm), but here you say max underside height is 105.5 cm. If youre trying to decide which unit to buy check out myin-depth reviews section. That said, I dont tend to use my fan there, since about the only thing itll then cool is my crotch. Plus, obviously its roughly half the price of Wahoos option. Get all your awesome DC Rainmaker gear here! Usable surface area is the same on both Overall I love it. Greetings all Amazon still have same desk under $120 USD, Vinsetto Height Adjustable Mobile Computer Desk. my weekly podcast - with GPLAMA, which is packed with both gadget and non-gadget goodness! TRY MULTIPLE LINKS IF ONE IS PRICING CRAZY, it just means its out of stock for a few days. One small note. Thanks for the tip Richard!!! $149 US there, and I just ordered it. All the links are at the bottom of the review to help though! I cover all the units to buy (and avoid) for indoor training. Can we take a moment to recognize this desk is so outstanding, a lady in jeans and running shoes is just killing it on their Amazon page! Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Lost them. I travel a fair bit, both for work and for fun. Mine goes about 50cm above my tri bars, plenty of space. In general, youll want this to clear your handlebars, so that you can have it rest over the edge of it if you want to. Not adjustable, but thats fine in this case. It keeps pushing the plastic inserts out so that I cant lock it in. Normal person assembly time: 3 minutes tops. (The above $7 Apple TV remote case is amazeballs for trainers, its a non-slippery silicone that goes around it, while including a strap. Thanks for responding. Why havent you yet released a review for XYZ product you mentioned months ago? These are functionally useful. Instead, I put my remotes in there most times. Thanks DCR. And to compliment that, heresThe Girls (my wifes) list. Heres my full review on it. Meanwhile, down at the base are the wheels. That said, the fan works better when its not pointed at your crotch anyway, so I usually place it off to the side (for either desk) Good wrap up. PPWear Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon Germany My old set up was a couple of repurposed mic stands with iPhone/iPad holders and the desk cant even be compared. PPWear Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon France Im from out of the country and will be visiting the US, whats the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? Its $119, but the name changed again. Wahoos frame base is definitely prettier being rounded surfaces versus the squared look of the RAD/Lifeline. Then, I come here and write about my adventures. I have a pedestal bar top table which I was using, although the heights nice it simply doesnt work well for what I want it or a cycling desk would do. Surprised those made it by the girl! Ive never had my iPad fall out of it (or the KICKR desk for that matter), its pretty solid. They both go to Canada, and the Canada, UK, and Spain links appear to be borked, but I didnt try them. And thus, this is my review of that desk. That coming from a Wahoo Fanboy who has a Kickr, Climb, Tickrs, and Element! Of course, it doesnt always do so correctly. Yeah, fighting Amazons ever-clever re-direction links is almost impossible. Im headed to Washington DC what do you recommend for training? So in the grand scheme of things it looks pretty good. I was looking for a Trainer table but did not want to fork out $450 Cdn for the Wahoo trainer. Confidence Cycling Trainer Desk Amazon UK :-/, It was out off stock when I checked wiggle though Planet X Bikes in the UK also have what looks like the same model & its 20 cheaper too, though you do have to pay delivery. While I have the table, I dont use it for bike riding. What are your thoughts on using this to actually get work done during the day? Though, most times it just ends up on my handlebars anyway since the holes are on the far side of things. its exactly as in the article. Next, theres the surface. The current $119 one is the main Amazon link above. I have built an extensive list of my most frequently asked questions. Mine seem fine, but I honestly dont touch it much. And implemented both of them, for half the price. But frankly, if you spent $250 for the Wahoo fan, I have a funny feeling you might have already spent $250 for the KICKR Desk anyway. The good news is that as part of that, it does manage to keep the affiliate tracking bit, even if it sends you to an unexpected land. Look, Im no fan of direct knock-offs. Tablet holder situation is the same on both Luckily it was an old ipad in one of those otterbox/lifeproof cases so no damage. However, at least for me, the wheels are necessary to achieve the required height. Then hit up Wiggle at the link below! WTH. Most of the time. It was in stock yesterday at that price (since half a dozen or so people bought it via links from this site at that price). However, if I removed the wheels that would bring the desk down by just under 3 inches and thus it would not fit. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. So I had to always block it wish something so my desk wouldnt end up on the other end of the cave. Yet another brother of the same mother with a different nameor, something like that: link to amzn.to. Legs (pretty obvious) Quite literally a stretch to fit and challenging to set up neatly with only one pair of hands. I am a voice actor and thus table makes the perfect stand up table in my vocal booth. Heres the nuances: RAD/Lifeline desk has two water bottle holders (Wahoo has none) I swim, bike and run. Only $60 or so dollars too for a music stand! Maybe try loosening the bolts a quarter turn or so? Ive put all three links in the description above. I just looked this this up on Amazon and the price is $300.00. You'll support the site, and get ad-free DCR! So in efforts to combat the amount of emails I need to sort through on a daily basis, Ive complied this My Photography Gear post for your curious minds! plus mp3 plus water bottle plus oddments such as electrolyte gel for the heart rate strap. Usually sacrificing something (often notable) in quality or functionality compared to the original products. In the UK/EU/Australia/New Zealand? Below are the most popular. Didnt know about the stock checker tool. Since its not for bikes it doesnt have the cost multiplier and only costs $40 on amazon. The genius of the apple remote case is you can finally tell which end is which without looking at it. The bar on my bike is 106 cm high if placed on the riser block (riser block = 45x70mm piece of wood), so my bike wont fit under the RAD? less likely to accidentally throw it out. Heres those specific links. In the US, you can get it on Amazon. I assume they have 32 other names in various countries they go by. Its identical to the RAD Cycling Desk, except just one of another 28 names it goes by. I USED to be able to buy from Germany. Heres the two positions. Note: Ive never talked to said random company. Fun fact: They actually did the certification on the TD-1 in case you spill a bottle of water over the outlets, it doesnt do something bad. Besides your wheels-on-last tip I also suggest you leave the leg base bolts slightly loose until you slide the table top on. It actually has more featuresfor less than half the price. Im on carpet so no worries about the bolt heads for the legs protruding but swapping to some flat heads could solve that for hard surfaces. Not a dealbreaker, as its not moving when youre riding. thanks Was 99, has gone up 10 since. Now though, its in a boatload of places under different names (all linked at the end). On the US Amazon sight, there is an identical desk without the RAD stickers available and for much less i.e. Non-slip textured surface is the same on both Expect a review of that in a few weeks. But in that initial review there were only two complaints I had with the original Wahoo design. Further, if you have an Elite Sterzo or Sterzo Smart, consider that your handlebars will turn. Id want those features incorporated, and most notably, some element of power. Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! It wobbles back and forth between the RAD Desk and the Conquer desk. Thats impressive! Clicked the US link, changed the URL to .com instead of .ca, hope you get your affiliate. The three branded variants (RADVinsetto/Conquer) that are available in the US via Amazon are all in-stock at some point every week. I cant see if France/Italy/Netherlands et al deliver to Sweden because the item is out of stock currently. Yes, I love the Wahoo KICKR Desk I bought nearly 5 years ago, as does almost everyone that buys one (despite the price). And I just re-measured the Wahoo desk too, and it goes ~117cm for the underside. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Then thought there were better things to spend my money on. Apparently that day answering that comment my brain wasnt fully turned on it should be 115.5 (not 105.5) as the max underside of the RAD desk. But, you dont come here for high-level differences. So, good news is new kits came in about two weeks ago. I bought the desk, went together easily and seems to be high qualitythanks as usual for the tip, Came here to say that as of me shopping for a desk in February these lifeline desks are more expensive than the Wahoo alternate in almost all online retail channels at least the ones Ive found. I dont know if it is also an issue with the wahoo desk or not. Max/min adjustable height is the same on both I suspect if you check back a few times tomorrow or by the end of the week itll be all good. In my case, I bought mine (at full price) from Chain Reaction, which is owned by Wiggle. I was thinking cutting the little legs of the plastic inserts and glue them to the desk. I wouldnt recommend building a rolling table on top of another table. Thumbs down to Amazon when trying to search for: treadmill desk Their search is mostly miss. And what is the height up the the underside of the table? Your email address will not be published. All of which is cool. Plus of course, sometimes things like cameras or whatever else I need to have up there. 120 shipped and in stock. Thought about buying one of these for myself on Christmas Day. In my case, I selected to do so on the most awkward surface I had the unboxing table. Kind of sad that for the $130+ generic power strip, extension cord and cable ties you may already have+ double sided tape, you can beat a $250 desk (Kickr Desk) and probably a $320 desk (Saris TD-1). After I removed all the parts, heres what Ive got: Table top It was in-stock mid-last week. Thanks for your receive, thoughts and comments!! Its a nice break from the day to day sports-tech talk, and I hope you get something out of it! Many thanks for your review and insight!! I can literally roll it all around my recording studio. While were down here, youll see that the base bar structure is higher off the ground than the KICKR Desk. Both can withstand my entire body weight (see the video!). The RAD desk 3 wheel design does have potential tipping ability if you have kids. After reading your review I decided to go for the RAD Trainer and Im very happy with it. I assume you mean out the windowtowards the path of an impending bus, which will then be runover and crunched further by a steamroller. However, the center of gravity of it means that you tend to get a little bit of movement thats not a big deal for casual taps on an iPad/laptop, but more obvious when youre composing multi-page documents. RAD/Lifeline desks wheels can actually rotate, useful when you need to rotate it out of a tight space, the KICKR desk only goes forward/backwards Looking forward to when the TD-1 review comes out. comment #49 A couple from the pack are the perfect length to run a power cable neatly up the leg. And while my junks hotness levels might be off the charts, I cant say its a major priority compared to cooling my chest/head. Think I could ride a bike and be on calls while typing, etc? But wait, are you a female and feel like these things might not apply to you? Or, anything else you pick up on Amazon helps support the site as well (socks, laundry detergent, cowbells). Problem solved. Hahayeah, I pulled stock footage from the last 7 months of indoor trainer/bike videos for those segments. As I said, Ive been using both side by side for quite a while now, and probably even use the RAD/Lifeline desk more since its in the position closest to the wall (which is what I consider my primary trainer spot). Likemanymanymany hours worth. link to keepitsimpelle.com. If you want change back from your US $100 Confidence Fitness Adjustable Height Treadmill Desk is $99.99 Does anyone have any idea when Tacx Flow smart will be back in stock? Back in stock at Wiggle! Amazon lists four suppliers, from $280 to $400. If thats the case (but certainly not saying my choices arent good for women), and you just want to see a different gear junkies picks, check out The Girls Gear Guide too. No cost to you, easy as pie! I am totally satisfied and wouldnt trade it for Wahoos offering. TechnicallyI think thats an old mag or fluid trainer, since you can see the cable running from the frameup to the handlebars. I loosened the bolts holding the table top to the arms, and its gone. These are all *identical*. This is notable if youre a Wahoo Headwind fan user *AND* also put your Headwind fan atop that base bar (thats why theres a cut-out in the Headwind design, its made to perfectly fit the KICKR Desk). Love my lifeline desk, i have been using some hand made desk which was really badly made.. this one is perfect.
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