This is her thread after all, and probably thousands of people on the internet will find and read it. There are still footprints from install a year and a half ago on those floors. @Shannon H Yes the North Shore Oak was the best weve found as far as not being destructive but I dont have recent samples of it. I think that really helped! I do recommend getting a box from the same lot number as what would be available for you to order from so you can test that specific lot! I hear you and I understand your frustration and your belief that the smoother finishes were fine, but this is what you and the manufacturers are up against. We stayed at our neighbors new house last Jun for one month. Shaw offers luxury vinyl planks, luxury vinyl tile and sheet vinyl. I will update whenever we know anything! So thank you for contacting them. Im sure there are some who do actually have the clothes problem (given our testing of recent samples and how widespread the matte finish is now) but dont realize it or arent down on the floors enough for it to be noticeable. So glad to find your post @surrendertoflow. I would suggest a vapor barrier, even for the upstairs. Have you tried any of the Supercore products? Here's the low down (spoiler alert, it's not great news)The negative review was probably left from someone whose installers genuinely did have issues installing because the rep said that the first rollout of it was tricky to install compared to thinner LVP because it was so thick (couldn't use the same speedy technique and needed special tools) so installers that weren't properly trained on it had issues. I dont see an increase the amount of holes. @Amanda It took us this long to find this out about the Shaw floor we were waiting on (Prodigy Elite Golden Age). Both of these issues apply to the Coretec floors but not to the Cali Bamboo floors. So needless to say, we are also not fond of Cali Bamboo. ISSN 1980-9743 | ISSN-e 2675-5475, An International Journal of Geotechnical and Geoenvironmental Engineering | Latest issue: 45(1) Jan-Mar 2022 | ISSN 1980-9743 | ISSN-e 2675-5475 |, NATIONAL LABORATORY FOR CIVIL ENGINEERING, Portugal, Copyright 2020 Soils and Rocks. Were desperate to find a replacement that isnt going to repeat any of these problems weve experienced! Send the photos and a brief explanation of the the issue and a request for help to every member of the BOD, https://members.fcica.com/board-of-directors, https://members.fcica.com/commercialflooringresourceguide/Search/consultants-138491, https://members.fcica.com/commercialflooringresourceguide/Search/contractors-138494. I think my Coretech must be an older version. Seattleharpist, thank you for the firsthand knowledge, so good to know. So we currently have clearly defective boards on the floor (one even has numbers printed on it) and overly stressed and cracked molding (some with nails sticking out) from too many install attempts because we just needed them to get us off the subfloors immediately. SO glad that you were able to avoid the destructive flooring and that you were able to find something you love!! The Editor is responsible for the final decision regarding acceptance or rejection of articles. Unfortunately we're out of stock for this item. So we haven't actually gotten the sample box shipped yet because we are requesting that it come from the same lot number as our whole order when that becomes available. Anything Coretec suggests is worthless to fix this problem. Interested in transforming your space with Cali Bamboo products?Lets get started by scheduling a consultation with one of our flooring specialists. 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I did the hole test and yikes! The finish is just unfortunate. 2) Also wanting to hear from people about whether or not they have LVP that has the haze/footprint issue or the clothes shredding issue or the bevel paint issue or the dumb pattern repeat issue. Yikes, just reading about the bloodshed. Our old Cali (installed 2019) is textured and not slippery (its in the kitchen and gets plenty plenty wet often with my little helper) and isnt destructive in the least. Yikes! Design pros share the elements they used to create inviting spaces that focus on function and fashion, Which kitchen flooring is right for you? My husband usually walks around in socks and no complaints there. ZERO issues with the finish, and nothing has given it the slightest scratch. In our initial search, my favorite floor was Karndean Rustic Maple. Were waiting on a floorte Elite sample box. Just going to chime in again because I get the lawsuit thing, but what about other types of flooring currently being sold then? This just sounds like an excuse for an unintended consequence. Indeed, @surrendertoflow why not go with something else? It would feel like settling at this point (especially to my husband who hates the repeats) but I just dont want to have to start over! Oh no! Many of the samples weve seen are VERY extreme (totally believable they would cause abrasions on little ones). The issue includes Articles, Case Studies and Review Articles. Does this seems to be an issue with all LVPs? So I guess what Im looking for here is 1) Were seeking an understanding of why some LVP has the haze problem people complain about and why some LVP has the clothes shredding problem weve had and at least one LVP (Cali) doesnt. We only have 3 patterns (sometimes with a 4th), because they screwed up at the time of our order (which is why they eventually refunded us). I have lost track of where you are in your search, so, I apologize if you've already ruled this one out. Can never run after her kids again, maybe she can't even pick them up anymore. We are building next Spring and most people around here use LVP, i just dont have good vibe about it. An expert gives us the rundown, See what goes into laminate flooring and why you just might want to choose it, Find out what shapes and finishes to choose to create a comfortable and inviting space, A designer maximizes every inch with smart storage and prep space for a retired caterer and his wife in California, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, New This Week: 7 Stylish and Welcoming Family Rooms, Pros and Cons of 5 Popular Kitchen Flooring Materials, Laminate Floors: Get the Look of Wood (and More) for Less, How to Design a Warm Contemporary Kitchen, Kitchen of the Week: Streamlined Style in 125 Square Feet. I suppose I should have asked for my money back on those. So to make it matte you need tiny breaks and pits in the finish that deflect or diffuse the reflection. It looked really nice in person! Angie's List has changed alot since we did the out of state remodel so I'm not sure how reliable it is anymore. @Amanda Oh thats a bad sign! But always just get samples and test anything for yourself! I will take some photos tomorrow and post them here, hope it helps! He didnt believe me and just thought the floor was dirty because all the constructions. And am I right in understanding that Cali was the best (besides the pattern issue) but you've since found that they've started using the gritty finish? We never slip on the Cali floor even in socks. I really liked Cali too but don't have any samples right now. The house was finished early in the year and they moved in in April. But like I said. We want to add more lvp in other rooms but will wait to hear from others that can give us advice . Soils and Rocks operates either single or double blind review process. I dont need no stinking permits. Before purchasing, I contacted the company to find out how many different patterns there were, and while I don't remember anymore, it was much more than I was expecting. they completely removed that entire line from their webpage so im not sure what going on its like theyre doing a total redesign or something. This pattern repeat issue was something we had explicitly checked on before purchasing so we were livid that we had been told inaccurate information by CB sales people. It took awhile but we finally figured out why all of our socks and pants were getting holes in them so quickly and why every time Id get up from my knees off the floor Id have whitish patches on them. According to the ANSI A326.3 standard, any product measuring below 0.42 would not be suitable to be walked on when wet.". Our repeats are super duper obvious because they didnt have the reversals when they installed ours. I did a bit of internet research and found something that may be the cause for the change to LVT/LVP flooring. Its just a different color variation with the same pattern (we prefer the North Shore coloring, matched matches our home better). BUT we just got newer samples of the same Cali floor and theyve since updated their finish, probably without even knowing it (at least the sales people are not aware of the change at all). I walked around in my nylon footies for an hour with no affects as did my realtor and our GC. Or wear slippers. de Mello; Bruno S. Dzialoszynski, M.S.S. They can't. @surrendertoflow ugh no, I'm so sorry!! We are actually still waiting. The Journal adopts continuous publication of papers with 4 issues per year in printed (ISSN 1980-9743) and electronic (ISSN-e 2675-5475) version. the rest of the house is engineered hardwood that is smooth as glass but isn't dog or water friendly . Articles do not require transfer of copyright as the copyright remains with the author. Theyve definitely gone too far unnecessarily with the matte effect. My sister got tile in her bathrooms at that time because LVT couldn't be used in the bathrooms. Since we have a toddler, we spend a lot of time down on the floor. Please update your selection. Anyone have experience to share or information regarding Triumph LVP? Check out! I believer it was the floor. I sure wish they had a better pattern repeat solution and their customer service was better so we could just go with them because at least we know their floors wont tear up our clothes and we can clean the floors just fine without the haze. If the installer did not honor the required expansion joint, especially around the perimeter of the room, then when your house moves with seasonal changes it will contract around the floor and squeeze it causing it to peak at the seams. I've installed both of those brands. I so hope you can get it resolved! This is a long time to live in flooring purgatory. Zip2Biz is a perfect match for non-techies flooring retailers planning to launch their own websites, as well as for flooring dealers whose current website design is difficult to maintain, costing them too much money, or they would rather be selling flooring than dealing with a website. I would keep looking for other options but weve tried sooooo many at this point. Need your opinionwhich Provenza LVT do you like better? I really liked it. Tile, wood and old style sheet flooring can be slippery but they havent stopped using them. So our backup plan opportunity is apparently gone.
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