My replacement flux arrived today. Ive just been reading the comments on the Drivo 2 review . This is all in addition to the trainer itself. Note thats different than a connectivity dropout. Grab your unit and look at the end adapters (or, the freehub itself). I'm one of the ones that do. Here's the thing, some people like front wheel blocks, some don't. Additionally, ERG use in faster gears tends to result more bouncy power data, which isnt necessarily bad or the reason, but it is usually the case. Then, I come here and write about my adventures. And ultimately, Wahoo uses their slightly smaller flywheel weight better, such that it feels better. So for that, we need to actually look at the overlay from TrainerRoad showing when it sent the command followed by when the Flux 2.1 achieved that level. The Tacx Flux 2.1 follows the same app compatibility standards as previous Tacx products that are non-NEO series, and essentially follows the industry norms as youd expect from a high-end trainer. Im buying a Tacx trainer. No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! Hello Mark, Firmware matures, manufacturing matures, etc That said, whatever happened here could have happened to anyone. And to compliment that, heresThe Girls (my wifes) list. You can follow him on Instagram or Twitter for everything swim/bike/run, and good coffee. Thanks in advance for your reply. Flux 1: First generation Flux with 10% grade simulation Also, you can toggle on/off the broadcasting of the ANT+ Speed/cadence profile. By applying resistance control apps can simulate climbs as well as set specific wattage targets. So the question is, if you already have the Flux 2 how can you tell if yours have this problem? After the Zwift update things were better, after the firmware update from tacx all the issues i had seems to be resolved. The free hub sent does not fit on this trainer. As for the exact speed, its literally the *only* thing the trainer industry has managed to agree upon when it comes to accuracy claims. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 11-speed, 10-speed, 9-speed, etc). So what does it mean to be OK? Does anyone know how to get to speak to someone who can help me with this? Not had a chance to test it yet. It seems only Drivo 2 users report issues. The stock freehub body on the trainer is compatible with Shimano and SRAM SRAM cassettes only. If trainers or apps dont support these standards, then it makes it far more difficult for you as the end user. I have built an extensive list of my most frequently asked questions. Quick and easy, and with that, weve seen all there is to see in the Tacx Utility app and beyond. Smart Trainers Buyers Guide: Looking at a smart trainer this winter? Even more, if you use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with coupon code DCRAINMAKER, first time users save 15% on applicable products! If thats the case (but certainly not saying my choices arent good for women), and you just want to see a different gear junkies picks, check out The Girls Gear Guide too. As the saying goes: Its not the size, but how you use it. Thankfully, thats not the case here. In my case I used one primary bike setup as follows in three configurations: Canyon Bike Setup #1: Favero Assioma Duo power pedals (dual-sided), Quarq DZero My power has dropped significantly from my I genius by about 20% and is about 10% down on my Stages crank power meter. The changeover happened fall 2019, and inventory for trainers globally has been such that especially this past spring, there was zero availability anywhere. Make sure to also check out our price tracker for the latest deals on the Flux 2. What do tou think of my picture in relation to the consistancy of the power as shown? And if those issues were just a one bad unit one off, then yeah Id be mostly happy with this unit from a technical standpoint. My Flux 2 power issues are still under discussion but I very much doubt there will be a quick fix. Maybe? Despite this information youve provided, I recently bought a Tacx Flux 2 trainer to upgrade to direct drive got a good deal, and it was in stock. But, in general it took about 4-6 seconds for it to stabilize from ~140w to ~428w, sometimes 4 seconds, sometimes a second or two longer. Returned it and waited a few months for new inventory. I had put an order in for the Saris H3 on the basis of its metrics, accuracy, and apparent better quality. You can also connect to the trainer and perform basic tests with it. If youve got a SRAM AXS bike, youll also need to get a different freehub adapter from Tacx as well. Joe. Yes any Garmin ant FCE will do the trick, but my edge 800 is not written off yet. With everything set, well talk about some of the basics of usage. Then there is a calibration that is needed with each switch. So basically I was instantly pedaling against air: Now, this is a good point to basically say: I know this wasnt a transient connection issue. Garmin sent a replacement Flux 2 that was broken (possibly in transit). Which isnt to say I dont like other Tacx trainer offerings. As a 2.0 owner, it does concern me that Tacx has set out to fix the issues of the unit by releasing a new revised version leaving the previous one behind without consideration. Tacx seem very quiet on the issue and I would like to avoid taking it back to exchange for another one only to gamble on having the same problem. I outline how I do power meter & trainer accuracy testing here, in case you want to make your own comparisons. The more the wattage jump, the slower itll be. Havent heard from them in a couple of months. Unlike some trainers, the leg/trainer on the Flux isnt foldable to save space during storage. Maybe not for the price, but at the right price I would be. In some cases the resistance surges are real (and I feel them), and in some cases theyre phantom (and I dont feel them in resistance change but it reports a spike to the app). Though realistically, itd be near-impossible to find a new Tacx Flux 2 thats not the 2020 edition. Very good. And the apps (any) monthly subscription fee is very very expensive. And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, Ill be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. Heres my most recent GPS watch guide here, and cycling GPS computers here. He's an avid triathlete and enjoys the outdoors and a good cup of coffee. Well, many moon phases later, last summer in Aug 2019, Tacx semi-quietly revamped the internals to a new version (oft called the Tacx Flux 2.1). Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Upon connecting, youll see options at the left from the menu, including the ability to check/update firmware: You can also go into a testing dashboard youll never use, as well as the ability to update the rider weight. Get all your awesome DC Rainmaker gear here! Plus ca change. The only issue I have experienced since taking possession of the Flux 2 is after I calibrated it in Zwift. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so its a fair bit of work (and labor of love). It appears, for the Flux 2, that accuracy claim is now for 2.5% and incline of 16%. I am deep in the Garmin ecosystem so figured it would be better to just stick to a Tacx. (unbalanced flywheel vibrates bike at speed, flakey wifi then the chafing noise started after 3hrs of use). The Flux 2 retails for $899 and is available to buy today at major online retailers and local bike shops. Now more importantly, where is your review of the new garmin 10.10 firmware for the Fenix 6 :p. Was your testing done with the latest firmware 1.1.6. Im from out of the country and will be visiting the US, whats the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. . However, despite all that, it still didnt solve the ERG accuracy issues entirely. Good luck Robert. So, Ill circle up down the road. The Tacx/Garmin conclusion = the Tacx 2 is fine and the bikes drive train is causing the power disparity. So with the original Flux 1, youd top out at 225w if doing 15KPH. Copyright SmartBikeTrainers 2016 - 2021. Ive use the Flux 2.1 i.c.w a 4iii precision 105 single sided pm. Tacx has always had them, and sometimes publishes variants to their site. Check out Wattage is not hard-set, only incline levels. In the vast majority of cases, the products I (as a reviewer) get if early are almost universally worse than what consumers get. Is there anyway to know what version is being sold online? Or, perhaps the others were high. Would recommend the kickr core over the flux 2. Tacx in the USA is in the process of moving and my understanding is that production is WAY behind demand. They agree though that this likely isnt a connectivity issue by WiFi or such. I think it is wobbling too much. Its OK. Now, others may have other issues. I lack a power meter as well, which makes it difficult to explain this problem. There is a huge buzz on the flux facebook group that this firmware update 1.1.6 is causing many issues (When upgrading). (Im dont have much complain so far, but i am interested in your opinion since you clearly have much more exposure ot different trainers than me. Hey DC, what do you use to film your videos again? (UK consumer law is such that, once youve unboxed and used a product, you cant return it for a refund unless its faulty, unlike, I believe, in the US.). Again, youre looking at different measurement points on the bike, all with differing accuracy claims. The Flux 2 is very quiet. After Wahoo came out with the KICKR and then Tacx came out with the NEO, Tacx popped out the Flux in 2016 at $899. By cutting out the hrm, just using the two BLT channels and shutting off the ant+ broadcast on the trainer, still leaves me loosing power and connection sometimes. Am I thinking this is a bigger problem than it really is or should I stick with a wheel-on trainer since buying two direct drives might land me in ddep water with the wife (looking for cycling exersize and not swimming)? But like you probably implied, without having them for other trainers, its hard to understand unless you run up against specific power/speed/weight break points to point to. Without question, those are within range of the specs. Apparently Garmin is going to announce a new or improved Flux 2 on October 10th. The Drivo was a good review for its time. Latest firmware came out at the beginning of this month (3.3.40/1.1.2). In the case of Zwift, I used it in regular riding mode (non-workout mode, aka SIM mode), whereas in the case of TrainerRoad I used it in a structured workout mode (ERG mode). Still, much of the road-like feel is driven by the flywheel, and be it physical or virtual, flywheel sizes tend to be measured in weight. Would a 12 speed mountain bike work on this trainer? DC, hi, appreciate the info you provide on cycling equipment! After two years since announcement, and some 18+ months of being on the market and people buying trainers the big question is: Did Tacx fix what initially blocked me from recommending it? Unfortunately, as this is a complete revamp of the hardware internals, theres no easy-button in terms of upgrades or swaps or anything like that from a Tacx Flux 2.0 to a Flux 2.1. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Thanks for letting me know im not alone. You could contact Tacx with the serial number and they could confirm for certain, but those are the two tells that I know of. It can be managed with TacxTraining or Tacx Utility app. Ive been seeing resistance dropout all throughout last winter/spring on Flux Smart and Flux S trainers. Now, all that annoyance said, theres two notable things: A) Power accuracy (the point of this section) seems to be largely fine Stability matters. After doing that, the resistance was in and out, as if a clutch was slipping while going up hills. That would help my wife whom tends not to be technically minded. What do you think a good price would be for a unit with about 50 hours on it? Duh. Production date is 2019, and purchase date is Oct. 29, 2019. Given teh timeline tops out at 244w, my guess is these are pretty small, and thus pretty normal variances. Check out my full trainer recommendations guide, which should help narrow it down a bit: link to dcrainmaker.com. Thats handy if youre connecting to Zwift on an Apple TV, due to Apple TVs two concurrent Bluetooth Smart sensor limitation (plus the Apple TV remote). Was the version from the link below of Tacx Flux 2 Smart and the Tacx Flux S Smart released earlier? Similar situation here in the US (4th flux) although Ive learned to be patient with their customer service. That one is ok though not the most user friendly. For example, TrainerRoad over Bluetooth Smart on an iPad doesnt support it. Ensure that the number of speeds matches your bike (e.g. Apparently theres an updated firmware that resolves these accuracy issues now. Ive emailed Garmon thanking them fir they help. I get the sense that the support people have a number of limitations and constraints. One nice thing about the Flux series is that the power brick is built into the bike. Is the Flux 2 that far out to lunch on watts Im looking at guys on Rouvy over 22km rides pulling off 5.1 w/kg and outside dont do 2 w/kg.. so frustrating when youre playing with these guys on a Neo yeah I understand ride for yourself, but still. Between bringing the trainer to a halt on one hand and causing power to bounce all over the place on the other. Meaning, now it had the hardware to fix the issues, but they had to get the firmware to match it. They really do seem to be slammed. So, lets look at a few more sets (and surges). The main difference aside from the obvious 16% grade simulation was actually more substantial, specifically they increased the working area at low-speed but steep climbing. That first test was done in the small chainring. Tacx says they dont know whats causing it and stated their R&D department is looking into it. In this case, you need the chain whip since you cant get a good grasp on the flywheel. For me, this isnt that big of a deal. It had no effect though on how quickly it could get to that point. Note that if using ANT+, Zwift will provide that information automatically to the trainer, but not via Bluetooth Smart. And thus, youre fully caught up on the Days of Our Lives: Tacx Flux Edition. Here in India pricing seems to be pretty similar. Reading the Tacx Facebook group and Garmin forum others had experienced the same issue and suggested rolling back firmware which I have since done and this has seemed to resolve the issue. Garmin will almost always announce things on a Tues/Weds/Thurs, but usually Tues/Weds. B) I actually havent seen others with this same precise issue. Do you have a picture a tiny bit lower that captures the small black bit that goes into the freehub that the skewer goes through, it might have some text on it? Want to compare the features of each product, down to the nitty-gritty? This is a super basic trainer mat, which is exactly what you'll see me use. Dont forget you can mix and match your own trainer product comparison tables using the database here. The Flux 2 has a 7.6 kg (16.8 lbs) flywheel which is heavier than Flux S and other high-end trainers. However, about now youre trying to figure out what Tacx Flux 2 you might actually have. (not to mention inconsistent with a previous Powertap hub vs. Vector 3 test on the same bike, that I reminded Garmin that they already have). Eeek. There are free apps though Golden Cheetah is one, and other smaller developers too. And my new fenix 6x Pro can not do FCE. This time my dumb idea to ride the Mont Ventoux course on Zwift earlier this week. I like my front wheel to stay put and not aimlessly wiggle around. The H3 is compared to the Neo 2T making it a higher end unit. Bug-ridden? E.g. I also tested it with The Sufferfest on iOS and it connected fine and the app was able to control the trainer in ERG mode. This impacts inertia and how it feels primarily when you accelerate or otherwise change acceleration (such as briefly coasting). They sent a 2nd one (Flux 2.1) that had power issues that were 10 15% low. At the end of the day, Im an athlete just like you looking for the most detail possible on a new purchase so my review is written from the standpoint of how I used the device. Both are about the same. I actually prefer when companies dont try and game the system by sending a QAd one. Most engineers/PR people/etc simply arent as good at re-applying stickers on products as the labor in Asia. Bummer. And finally, you can do a spindown calibration. Said differently: Peak numbers dont matter. If this doesnt get resolved I will need to invest in the Neo. Ive checked the Vector 3 power pedal output against a Powertap wheel and the data lines up nicely. The Tacx 2 is always low. Think my written reviews are deep? About 95% of the shots here are on a Panasonic GH5 mirrorless camera (link to amzn.to), and the remaining 5% on a Nikon D500 DSLR (link to amzn.to). And I think that may be part of the overall issue. 6+ months in to troubleshooting and on the 3rd replacement trainer, not much choice other than to continue working through the process. This allows you to compare it against other trainers Ive reviewed. So I am now waiting to see what they announce and may be taking a chance on the Flux. To be fair, the Flow cant put out anywhere near the power, or accuracy, of the Flux. They were part of a presentation from two years ago, but they sent me over refreshed copies that were a bit cleaner than the originals. That matters when going slow up climbs. There is another version, T2875.51, but it is supposedly for the Neo 2T. After sending Garmin FIT files for the same training session using 2 edge devices (520 and 530) comparing the new Flux 2 and Vector 3 Power Pedals, Garmin is now asking me to download the Tacx Training Desktop App and use that to run another simultaneous test. I've had this for years, and use it in places where I don't have a big screen or desk, but just an iPad or tablet on my road bike bars. Heres that data set: However, what you also see are points where the purple line of the Flux 2 random spikes well above the rest. I have noticed when doing workouts in Trainerroad I am really struggling to hold the watts at the higher level intervals, but dont have a power meter to check if it suffers the inaccuracy problems. This is my 5th flux in 2 years. The surge lasts a few seconds and then returns to whatever it was doing prior. I have bought a Bushido smart soon after it was released and the Tacx pc software, but that is not really supported anymore. Works great with Zwift (I have not tried the Tacx app yet but will since they gave me a one month trial). 200w), Includes motor to drive speed (simulate downhill), Can directionally steer trainer (left/right), Can simulate road patterns/shaking (i.e. I havent heard anything about a fix. Ive added the Flux 2 into the product comparison database. It was around then that I got a unit, and it didnt take long to determine it had legit road blocker issues, primarily with ERG mode and power accuracy horrifically off. When in ERG mode, the flywheel speed will hardly go over 20mph and it will most likely be lower than that as long as you remain in the small front chainring. Canyon Bike Setup #3: A different set of Favero Assioma Duo power pedals (dual-sided), Quarq DZero. Its as simple as that. Or, if you move it some long distance, its always a good practice. One of the most popular trainer fans out there, rivaling the Wahoo Headwind fan in strength but at a fraction of the price. I picked up one of these in January, unfortunately before seeing your review. And theres post after post about very slow (10+ s) responses to changes in erg target power, even though you/Ray found excellent performance there (3s). Unless you are getting one bike per member it looks to me like there is a headache in setup of ride position. The power is now fairly consistently 4 8% low (6.9% last test). Simulation Mode: Simulating a specific outdoor grade i.e., 8% incline. It doesnt cost you anything extra, but your purchases help support this website a lot. I think youre best bet is trying to convince Garmin support to offer a credit for a NEO or a return directly with them. Flux S: Basically a Flux 1, but with long derailleur cage support and some internal manufacturing tweaks Is it the GoPro Hero 8 or a DSLR? But here is a perfect example of how bigger isnt always better and looking at the number alone doesnt give you a good indication of how the trainer feels. I have the same resistance issues with zwift. Theres no way to know. But if you are looking for accurate cadence measurement, then a dedicated cadence sensor like the one from Garmin is your best option.
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